I have been working on getting off of methadone and transferring to these pills that are much better for you and easier to get off of since 2002. the pills are called Suboxone and I was on them from 2001-2002 when it was a research drug. Now it is federally approved.
It is much easier to go from suboxone to nothing. Methadone is impossible to get off of and only 2 percent of the people that try make it off successfully. I all ready tried twice to get off of methadone and it didnt work. Finally when i was in NYC, this addiction medicine doctor took me off methadone and put me on oxycodones. In New York City they do this when you are on less than 50 mgs of methadone. You go from the oxy's to the suboxone.
So I took this doctor up on his offer and it was really hard. I had to take so many of the oxy's and it made me feel all strung out. The doctor in NYC made the appointment for me for the DR. in Seattle that was suppose to subscribe the suboxone to me. But when I got to Seattle this asshole of a psychiatrist decided to not take any more suboxone patients. He literally left me out to dry without a program and my methadone clinic all ready discharged me when the Doctor in NYC called them on the phone and told them what he did. They discharged me without even telling about it. I wanted to keep them on hold in case the suboxone didnt work out so I wouldnt have to buy methadone off the street. But the DR there had been trying to get rid of me since I won a case against her.
Last year I got my medical marijuana license. The doctor at the clinic tried to take away my take homes because of it and started testing me for weed. Well I fought her all the way to the top and won. It was against the clinic's policy to test for weed. She did whatever she wanted to a lot of people. She has hurt a lot of people. When I won my case she kept trying to find reasons to get rid of me. When they discharged me like that it was written up as if I left under bad circumstances, but I didnt. I never even had a dirty urine there. I hadnt had a dirty urine since 2002. This left me in bad standing which means if I had to go back I couldnt go back for 6 months to a year depending on the situation. I dont want to go back there anyway. I hate that place.
When the psychiatrist refused to prescribe me the suboxone, he left me in danger of having to use heroin. I hate heroin and want nothing more to do with it. This doctor is not a doctor he is the fucking devil. He didnt like me because I refused to go on anti-anxiety and anti-depressants. I do not believe in those medicines and they are also impossible to get off of. I all ready have the methadone to get off of and I dont want to be stuck for life on some evil pill that doesnt even work and makes your problems worse. I tried them years ago and all they did for me was make me want to kill myself and make me a zombie. 3 different times I was given psych meds and all 3 times they didnt work and made everything worse. This doctor is the kind of jerk that just wants to put people on pills and not really heal them. He also hated me because I was on medical marijuana and he didnt believe in it for PTSD, even though there are many, many studies and a lot of proof that pot is the only thing that really treats PTSD successfully. The doctor that wrote me my medical marijuana card is an expert on PTSD.
So for over a week I had to buy methadone off the street and it was terrible. I still had some oxycodones but not enough so I bought methadone to make them last. I was also prescribed a clonidine patch from the doctor in NYC and they really help take away the withdrawals. I also have Gabapentin which is a non narcotic pain killer that treats opiate withdrawal. Luckily I didnt have to buy heroin because a Doctor at Pacific medical center came to my rescue.
I went to see my doctor at Pacific Medical Center to try and get a 2 week supply of methadone because my previous doctor there wrote me a 2 week script once when I needed extra take homes to go visit my parents in CT for the holidays. But the doctor that took her place would not do it because she is not licensed for addiction medication. The govt makes it illegal for doctors to prescribe opiates for opiate addiction because they own all of the liquid methadone companies and they passed a law so that everyone that needed to go on methadone has to by it from them. The CIA brings in the heroin and then they reap the rewards by getting people hooked on heroin and having methadone being the only option. But suboxone throws a wrench in their works.
98 percent of the people on methadone cannot get off of it and will be stuck for life. You can die and have seizures from methadone withdrawal. It is worse than heroin. Suboxone 80 percent of the people can get off successfully and stay off for good as long as they go to counseling and take care of themselves while on the medication. The Gov't made suboxone extremely expensive so that people cannot afford to get on it. There are only 3 doctors in Seattle that are authorized to prescribe suboxone that take Medicare and Medicaid. To get it at the non-insurance taking methadone clinics here in Washington state it costs 800 dollars compared to 360 dollars for methadone. here in Seattle there are 2 clinics that take state insurance or any insurance for that matter and they both suck. There are more clinics in New Haven CT than there are in Seattle Washington. This is sickening. Seattle is known for heroin (black tar that is which is disgusting and I hate with a passion) and should have tons and tons of clinics just like New York City. The govt makes it harder to get suboxone because you can get off successfully and they wont make as much money off of your addiction.
So after the psychiatrist fucked me over for the suboxone, I was going to have to get back on methadone and start all over going everyday and paying for it out of my pocket. The one doctor I found that took my insurance had a two week waiting period and I was attempting to see him but I really couldnt even wait a week.
Anyway as I was seeing my Doctor at Pacific Medical Center, she told me there was a Doctor there that prescribed suboxone but he wasn't taking any more patients. She finally agreed to prescribe some medication to help my withdrawals so she went to the nurses station to look up medications on the computer. Well while she was out there she spoke to the doctor that prescribed the suboxone. She sweetly pleaded my case and he decided to take me on! I saw him today! I pick up my medication tomorrow!
This Doctor is an angel. I am so excited! I am just waiting for my insurance to approve it and I am on my way. Even if they deny it at first, I will pay for it out of my pocket until I appeal and win my case because basically instead of paying 400 dollars for my methadone they are paying 400 dollars for the suboxone, which in the long run saves them money because I can get off of this medication!
After a 8 year wait I finally got the medication I need to free myself of opiate addiction. I all ready took care of my head and heart and will continue to do so. I just now need to fix my opiate receptors and this is the pill that does it. No other pill actually fixes the opiate receptor, this is why the New World Order hates these pills. Suboxone defeats the vicious cycle of heroin and methadone. It saves lives because being trapped at a methadone clinic that will kick you out for no reason is very scary. I was kicked out at one clinic here in Seattle because my counselor made a mistake. I had been clean for 3 years when this happened. It was fucked up and I should of taken them to court.
I really stoked because in a year I will be off of these pills too and finally free and I mean FREE! I can travel when I want to, take off on a moment's notice and not have to worry about my methadone or the clinic.
This is the beginning of the end of my nightmare addiction to opiates. Thanks to divine mother for coming through for me, I love you so much and I am here to serve you, the light, humanity and Nico until my dying breath and beyond. I pray to divine mother to have everything with my insurance go through. I really need this chance and cant really afford to pay for them on my own. Thanks to my angel doctor at pacific medical center. i will never forget this.
PS. At Yale New Haven Hospital on was on these pills when it was research. I did so well that the doctor kept me on for a year and a half when it was only a 6-month to a year program! The nurse said I did the best out of all her patients. I did not even get sick from the blocker that is in these pills. When I relapsed in 2002 I walked off the program I was only taking 4 mgs! I almost made it to nothing but because I wasnt getting counseling I relapsed. Since then I have sone intensive counseling at a couple different places and I still do! So I KNOW FOR A FACT that I can get off of suboxone, but I cannot just get off of methadone. I am beyond stoked.
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good luck mate. i have just been taken off 100ml meth 20 ml a week im dreading it
stewart robinson
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There has never been a reported death from opiate withdrawal. Siezures can occur with alcohol and benzodiazepine withdrawal.
It's really difficult for some people to taper off of the last 40mg of methadone, especially if you've gone from a high dose to that low dose because the ratio of what you're decreasing it by (for example 5mg every 2 weeks) is so much greater at that point. Really, your addictions MD should be establishing a plan that is realistic for you, if that means decreasing by 1mg every two weeks then that's what it should be. I think that sometimes MD try to dictate what they think is best for the patient and they shouldn't because really only the patient knows what they are experiencing.
I have been on methadone for 2 years now, and recently just found out that the dilantin i was taking for siezures, was flushing out the methadaone. I am at 150ml, split dose 75ml drink and 75 carry(take home daily). I droped 10ml and it is still too much, my doctor wants me to stay at a high dose so i dont relapes, what do you all think?
thanks for all the great comments. I am now only on 6 mg of suboxone and I feel great!
To Stewart, good luck man, it is so not easy I feel for you mate.
To the person that said about the 40 mg and below, you are so right. Many years ago I was on only 20 for 6 months and those last 20 mgs was a killer, I ended up relapses and using for another 4 years before I finally got clean and stayed clean with methadone again and now the suboxone.
Good luck to all of you, methadone and heroin addiction is so hard, so so hard. Try to get on suboxone if you all can, it is much better and worth it.
much love
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